So!YoON!
You are listening to So!YoON!'s second
Full-length commentary album
'Episode1:Love'. The track we are going to listen to is
'Gave you all my love (feat. jibin of Y2K92)'.
I would like to invite Kwangjae Jeon,
The producer of this song and our producer who outlined
'Gave you all my love (feat. jibin of Y2K92)',
Who has been drifting in the open sea for a long time.
Hello, Kwangjae Jeon
Kwangjae Jeon
Hello.
So!YoON!
Please simply introduce yourself.
Kwangjae Jeon
Hello, I'm Kwangjae Jeon. I do electronic music and
I do a lot of things. I'm a producer, an engineer,
I can do with music. In fact, what people might know of my work is
Currently with Kim Ximya and Omega Sapien worked on it together
And Kwangjae Jeon who would have many more works in the future.
So!YoON!
Additional information of Kwangjae, "As he said, he often mixes
Musicians who make more alternative hip-hop-based
Electronic music such as Omega Sapien and Kim Ximya,
And I think he is a very cool musician." Before we officially
Talk about the track 'Gave you all my love (feat. jibin of Y2K92)'
With Kwangjae, I think it would be good to briefly go over
The history of this track. The beginning of this track goes
Back a long time. I think it has been over three years or four years?
Three to four years? I think it is about that much. DOCSKIM,
Who I trust so much, joined as a keyboardist, Jaeshin Park
Who is bassist, drummer John who visited Korea for a short time,
Happened to jam at a club and I just recorded the jam without any
Intention of doing anything. I recorded it and while the file is
Still there, it is a theme melody of this track.
'Gave you all my love'
Was the only melody theme that existed, but I just wanted to build
This track properly, so I thought about it for a long time.
Sometimes, I just leave the music on and stares at it and think
What should I do with this? In that state, it has been a year to two
Years or three years, and one day, I should leave this track to
An electronic musician. I thought I should throw this material
To someone who doesn't understand the composition of the band.
Anyways, it's really long. So, I am curious how you felt
When you first received this track. How did you feel?
Kwangjae Jeon
That's right. I might have heard it early last year.
I think I listened to it around the beginning of 2022,
And So!YoON! played a lot of songs. When I first heard
The initial version of 'Gave you all my love (feat. Jibin of Y2K92)',
I thought it would be fun for me to work on it. Because at the time,
I was thinking that I wanted to work on such as band stems and
Make them into my style, so I asked for it after I heard it.
That's what happened.
So!YoON!
So, I think it would have been the first time for Kwangjae
To work on a completely analog source, not with a digital source.
I remember that it was your first time working on a track with
No clicks and no exact tempo. As the work progressed,
I thought it was very effective. I was shocked when Kwangjae made
This track and sent it to me. Now I'm telling you again,
How could he make this? It was not just admiration.
It is kind a like, it is not the bass that I know
And it is not the drum that I know,
But if I say it like this, people might think,
How did he or she make it? To put it simply,
It is some kind of like a mess? The space.
Kwangjae Jeon
That is s right. I'm curious about how So!YoON! had listened to
It for the first time, because in my stance, it was processed
Pretty normally. I mean, I was joking around with the whole track,
But I didn't mean to make it into a mess. Of course,
Now she answered with a good feeling, but as So!YoON! said,
"You have made a mess.", "I am going to kill you." She kept
Answering it in the same way. But, in my point of view,
I really normally did it.
So!YoON!
Oh, maybe the word mess was not a compliment! I see.
Anyways, of course, this 'Gave you all my love (feat. jibin of Y2K92)'
Went through various versions and processes, like you used
A modular for the guitar at that time, or setting up
A drum's saturation, I put a lot of material and gave them to you,
And I felt like they were cooked in their own way.
I wonder if there is anything you want to do
Or remember in the process.
Kwangjae Jeon
There were a lot of things that I did it for the first time.
And when I asked for it, I thought there was definitely a bpm.
Of course, I thought there was a metronome, but when I got it,
I thought it was seven minutes and eight track stems,
So I remember looking for bpm for ten minutes.
'I must be doing it wrong. I am probably doing something wrong.'
But in the end, when I looked it up, there was no bpm and
It was a jam track without a metronome, so I thought a lot about
What to do with it. Since it's eight-minute long.
I wanted to cut it down, I really edit it measuring by every
0.001 seconds. And also, to match the arrangement,
I adjusted the length of So!YoON!'s demo vocals,
Cutting and extending them as needed during the work process.
So!YoON!
Yes. I also can remember through this conversation.
Kwangjae Jeon
Yes, that is right. That is how I remember it.
And then I want to put an instrument, but since I am really
Used to work on Ableton Live and matching bpm,
I felt a lot of pressure about not having bpm.
When I ask question to myself, what instrument should I put on?
I wanted to add something on top of it, so I thought about it
And I know it's too deep, but there is a function
Called Envelop Follower. To put it simply,
When the audio file comes in, it changes the volume.
It is to change the volume, but I changed the hi-hat of
The drum that So!YoON! brought and put it to the modulator
To create a percussion. It is the intro's
'Baam Baam Baam Baam Baam'. That is the high-hat rhythm.
I was able to work on things like that I do not normally work on.
So!YoON!
It felt like some kind of like science experiment.
Kwangjae Jeon
Yes. Me too.
So!YoON!
And to include more. Why do you think that jam track is
A jam track. It is a jam track with a sense of realism and
All the instruments that affect each other. In other words,
The bass has drums and the guitar has vocals. I think that is
Why it is a perfect circumstance setting for us to mix.
Because usually, when the electronic instruments are
Added to band music it is the electronic instruments and
The drums playing in realistic way. In a way, I think it is a kind
Of flat way, but the fact that you added a modular to the session,
Which is a realistic mess,
I think the animal parts that I am trying to
Talk about in this track came to life. I do not know how to express
About Kwangjae Jeon, but out of all the workers, he has
The most sense of balance I have ever worked on.
He is very diligent, and he is very animalistic.
So, when we meet and talk, they know so well about music
And there is always no technical obstacle.
I always call him magician. Anyways, I thought he was a real wizard.
Still, I think we met at least 20 times last year and
Kept working on it.
Kwangjae Jeon
Yes. That is right.
So!YoON!
And every time, I was like, what is this person?
What does this guy have?
I think it was a character that I have never encountered before.
Would it rather to be okay to be this progressive?
Is there a character that you are pursuing or have in mind?
Kwangjae Jeon
I do not think I have a particular character.
I try to change my habits depending
On the people I work on.
For example, when I work with other
Electronic music artists,
I try to do nerd talk, or for example,
If I work with singers,
I try to draw out their energy as much as possible.
Through the process, I tell So!YoON!,
'I can do this, too.' 'I can do this, too.'
'I can do this, too.' If I show it like this way,
It is fun and I try to put in as much energy as possible.
I think my personality itself was like,
Let me make this person happy at this time.
That is why I was able to reflect that.
So!YoON!
I think it is a really good virtue for working together.
There is a certain flexibility, but I think there is always
A part where I don't miss my character. Personally,
'Gave you all my love (feat. jibin of Y2K92)' is my favorite song.
Maybe it is because it is my style. I really like soul music.
But the reason I am especially hooked on it is because
This powerful drum cannot help but touch my heart.
The body has no choice but to react. However, if it was not
With Kwangjae Jeon, I have no doubt that it would have been
Like a studio album or a jam track with ordinary performers.
Kwangjae Jeon
The part that I was hooked on is really catchy for me,
Too, but when the intro is 'DDA DADA DADA' and the drum
After the jam is over. I think those two parts are like that.
But I think I am really attached to those two parts.
I was really free, but I started and ended with the image
That all the songs were free because of those two,
So I felt really good.
So!YoON!
On the other hand, for me, I had two points.
The point, when the moog bass came out
Kwangjae Jeon
Yes. Yes.
So!YoON!
It is like you did not want to miss that part either.
How should I say this? It is some kind of worker's kick?
Kwangjae Jeon
I would never take it out.
So!YoON!
That's right. That's right. When we mixed it,
We focused on that part. I think that is why I asked you to raise it.
And as the other part is changed, in the latter part, the drum
Rhythm goes away and a different voice comes out.
But I think the dynamic was made because of Kwangjae Jeon,
So the latter part was mostly effects, and the jamming drum
Was literally on fire. I think the latter part was more impactful
And at first, the vocal did not go up and only Kwangjae Jeon
Made the dynamics in the second half. But I thought I needed
A new person here. It was not a regular R&B style singer,
But a new existence that does not exist. I remember talking to
Kwangjae about how jibin would fit in, but it was much later.
In hindsight, I think I was right. It was a sudden proposal,
And I mentioned how it would be if jibin joined us here.
I'm curious how you felt about it at that time.
Kwangjae Jeon
Perhaps you didn't ask about it first, you probably showed it to
Me with the vocal stem and asked how is it?
So!YoON!
It was my imagination.
Kwangjae Jeon
It was distortion. When you asked with the vocal stem,
Jibin had two parts, right? There was rap and chorus,
And the rap was really good, and I regret not using it properly.
After this song ends,
What comes to mind is that for the chorus part,
It was my first time hearing something great like this from
Jibin's chorus regarding the music from Y2K92.
So!YoON!
When I listened to Y2K92's music,
There were a lot of styles that were
Tight rap or did not have real melody,
But I think the profound and
Mysterious chorus stood out in this track.
Kwangjae Jeon
Should I say it is a hip hop styled chorus?
When you listen to Biggie
Smalls and some kind of songs related,
It feels like the beat is
Based with somethings
So!YoON!
Makes you want to sample it.
Kwangjae Jeon
So!YoON!
That is right. I think it was really fun because there was a part
Where we struggled and jibin completed the second half of the song.
Furthermore, when you first heard this track, you think
Of it as a tough and low R&B soul, but in a good sense,
The vocals suddenly appeared which made me to think that it
Is not even a singer, but a random voice? Plus, I think it was good
That it could give you a sense of difference. Actually, we started
With 'Gave you all my love (feat. jibin of Y2K92)', but we have been
Working on projects continuously.
Kwangjae Jeon
Yes. Indeed.
So!YoON!
But we have been working on other tracks since two to
Three years ago, and we are continuously exchanging feedback
In progressively. With this commentary album as an excuse,
I am going to leave you a spoiler that I am working on another
Album with Kwangjae Jeon.
Kwangjae Jeon
This track contains my small jokes, but if the next one completes
And comes out with great work,
I would like to put a lot of my sincere jokes.
So!YoON!
That's correct. We cooked this track, but it's just that we added
A lot of seasoning. Now, for the next album,
We've put our heart into it and fine-tuned it.
Kwangjae Jeon
I truly knifed it.
So!YoON!
We might have added more technical elements to
'Gave you all my love (feat. jibin of Y2K92)', which contains
The touch of Kwangjae Jeon, even though we didn't use a lot of
Cutting but seasoning. There may have been intentions behind
Certain parts that we considered important during the mixing process.
Are there any other areas like this that you would like to point out
Or provide feedback on?
Kwangjae Jeon
I feel like I wasn't able to capture as much as I had thought,
But what I considered to be really important was the sampling.
This song is a track that contains energy of the performers.
For example, there is a coat I really like and there is a guy named
Tricky who used to be a guest vocalist for Massive Attack.
He was probably in the magazine in the nineties.
He said that he samples a lot and that
He said something about it.
He tries not to cut the noise of the sampling.
Because the noise
Comes out differently every moment.
Depending on how long this
Vinyl has been around how much dust there is.
But he thinks that is
The air that the sample has. Sampling artists need to be responsible
For using it. That phrase was deeply embedded and when I worked
On 'Gave you all my love (feat. jibin of Y2K92)' at the time,
I think I tried to stand out that part.
How to put these energies into the right place
So!YoON!
And for real, Kwangjae Jeon is really good at sampling.
If I send you the ingredients, you just cut it well and used it
Well to write the things that you want to write and even
Making a melody, making a section, and reinterpreting it.
Kwangjae Jeon
You can touch it freely and I think it is the funny point
To touch Daw. Like playing audio clips, I just put it to the
Beat like in a game, but when the concept of single bar is applied,
It sounds like music. And if you tie them up in big units,
It really makes sense, but it's a strange thing. I don't think
A person playing it came to me very attractive.
So!YoON!
When it comes to creating that coincidence, I have that basic
Knowledge? So, how naturally you can handle those tools like
Your own tools. I think that is a very important part of creating
Coincidences. But it is just that Kwangjae is not a person who
Relies on coincidence but sufficiently knows how to deal with
Equipment and tools that made him to be wizard.
Because of this coincidence,
Maybe it was possible for him to function somethings.
Kwangjae Jeon
This is a digression and I remember saying this before.
I do gamble every single moment. But in the end,
I think I can manipulate the probability as long as I set the range.
So, I tend to have pleasure when I encounter coincidences in music.
So!YoON!
Anyways, not only 'Gave you all my love (feat. jibin of Y2K92)',
But also 'Episode2' of So!YoON!, or '3', seeing in the future,
Do you have any expectations for the albums you will be working
On with So!YoON! in the future? As you mentioned earlier,
Not only with soulful cutting, but also with some presence in
The domestic music scene, and considering that Kwangjae Jeon
Is not very active producing albums,
Are there any expectations in that regard?
Kwangjae Jeon
In fact, you believe in me and give me all the authority
In our project, which creates expectations. So!YoON! has
Abilities that I don't have, and I have the authority to do
Whatever I want with those abilities. So regardless of the
Expectations for the next projects, I will focus on the projects
I will work on with So!YoON!, and if we end up releasing
A new project, I hope it will be a pop song.
However, even within the pop genre, there are soft pop and
Easy pop, as well as more challenging pop. I want to try and
See how far we can push ourselves, and I believe
We can achieve it. That's the expectations I have for our project.
So!YoON!
I think pop is right,
But I think it will be the more of radical thing.
Anyways, along with So!YoON!'s future album, we talked about
'Gave you all my love (feat. jibin of Y2K92)' with Kwangjae.
This place is a bit unfamiliar to you
And I think it would be the first
Time to record a story about music. Thank you for saying it so well.
Kwangjae Jeon
Thank you. First of all, I think it is good to leave what I think of
At age of twenty-nine years old. Then after ten years from now,
We can approach it again somehow. My way of speaking and
Thinking will change, but I think it would be good to come back
To this moment after ten years and listen to it.
So!YoON!
I feel the same way. There is something about this album in
Terms of records, but I hope it is a meaningful record at this point.
We have talked about the track
'Gave you all my love (feat. jibin of Y2K92)'.
Then I will move on to the next track.
It was so grateful to meet you.
Kwangjae Jeon
Thank you. Bye.
So!YoON!
Bye.