"Yes, 1964. I mean, it, it was that year. And I remember of the reunion when we were about to leave. And we went to the station, and the dogs would pull hard. ...as they used to do everyday. The saddest part was that when the train... Whoop! And the dogs were jumping, jumping, close to the bars of the windows And when the train had to leave the ... the dogs, follow, follow the train! Sometimes, not at all! We cried a lot. Ah let me see. That was in . 19 . er . in 19 . 19 nah be about, in 19 . er . erm."