And uh- referring now to something we've never referred to before Which a lot of people seem to read that's The Wire magazine A november issue piece called Back To The Future Which was by Simon Reynolds in the course of which he says, Well the thing at the top, he says "the spent forces of Grunge And lo-fi are giving way to a new impulse in American post-rock" He says, "Groups such as Tortoise, Labradford, Stars Of The Lid And Sabalon Glitz are rewiring rock according to the legacies of European space rock, avant jazz and Ambient sound design", And it's his most interesing piece and instructive too and Incidentially there's a new Tortoise LP called "Millions Now Living Will Never Die" which we're actually playing Not next week because that's Festive Fifty weekend but the week After that a track or two and the other one of these people that I'd not actually heard was Stars of the Lid and I've actually Tracked down a copy of their LP probably had one for years, It's on Sentimental Records, of Austin Texas, and it's called Music For Nitrous Oxide and it has to be said that it starts, This track which I'm gonna play which is Before Top Dead Center, Starts- it's very, very quiet indeed so you may well think something's Gone wrong with your right ear, but uh- that's that [...]