For you coming from, from Wenser, Ontario, Canada Where you from, at right across the tunnel from Detroit Which I feel is the modern Mecca of gospel music With the Clark Sisters uh, Windings, and Commissioned Uh, what was that like? Yes, I did, I grew up across the Windings They were called "The Testimonials" back then But I mean, they were awesome I mean, excellent And then the Clark Sisters, I grew up with them Infant uh, your aunt Gwen She became a back up singer with the Clark Sisters (Oh wow) So we were connected that way And uhm, even Commissioned back then They sang on my first project that Toms Whitfield produced Strange things are happening And that was them in the background So, it was the best And that motivated everybody to be the best they could be